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of the bombings, 11 minutes before the first bomb went off, a surveillance camera shows dzhokhar and tamerlan tsarnaev walking toward the boston marathon finish line with backpacks. then a surveillance camera mounted on the restaurant nearby captures crucial pieces of evidence. seven minutes before the first bombing the video which still hasn't been released shows dzhokhar walking toward the second bombing site. three minutes later he works his way into the crowd and takes his backpack off. the fbi says still photos show the backpack on the ground at his feet. when the first bomb goes off, tsarnaev remains calm as the people around him respond to the blast. he walks away without his backpack and ten second later the second bomb goes off in the spot where he left the backpack. complaint reveals that agents searched dzhokhar tsarnaev's u. mass dartmouth dorm room and they found bbs and large pyro tech. investigators found a bomb of the same brand of pressure cooker used in the bombs in the thursday night shoot-out. >> within minutes i had six of my officers, four on duty, two off duty, that are
of the bombings, 11 minutes before the first bomb went off, a surveillance camera shows dzhokhar and tamerlan tsarnaev walking toward the boston marathon finish line with backpacks. then a surveillance camera mounted on the restaurant nearby captures crucial pieces of evidence. seven minutes before the first bombing the video which still hasn't been released shows dzhokhar walking toward the second bombing site. three minutes later he works his way into the crowd and takes his backpack off. the...
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if the russian government was so concerned about tamerlan as to alert our fbi and our government, and warrant an investigation of him, why are we so sure that dzhokhar is not connected to a cell of some sort back at home that might then make him an enemy combatant and then, two, if he is name an enemy combatant and treated as an everybody me combatant, that doesn't mean that he cannot be tried in a civilian court. correct? >> that's correct. in fact, he is not allowed to be under the military commission law. 20, it exempts american citizens. so there is that. they could hold him indefinitely. that has to be done, maybe, and maybe not because he is a civilian. that's a question the supreme court has not answered. the purpose has to be to keep him off the battlefield. not to interrogate him. and what you're saerg is interrogation, be to keep him off the battlefield. and point, two it is certainly possible. he is involved in a larger network of cells that may be affiliated with al qaeda. that's why the fbi has deployed interrogators. that's why they will ask him before they mirandize him
if the russian government was so concerned about tamerlan as to alert our fbi and our government, and warrant an investigation of him, why are we so sure that dzhokhar is not connected to a cell of some sort back at home that might then make him an enemy combatant and then, two, if he is name an enemy combatant and treated as an everybody me combatant, that doesn't mean that he cannot be tried in a civilian court. correct? >> that's correct. in fact, he is not allowed to be under the...
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they are checking for any connections between tamerlan tsarnaev and this unsolved triple murder. the connections between these two crimes may be coincidental. there is no reason at this point to say there is more. but as the d.a. looks into this further, watch this space. >>> simply stated, there is no doubt that saddam hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. there is no doubt that he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies, and against us. >> not true, it turns out. when it comes to understanding what dick cheney was falsely alleging there, there is really no doubt what he was alleging, right? wmds, chemical weapons, biological weapons, that's what weapons of mass destruction means, right? why did the boston marathon bomber suspect get accused of wmds? there is an explanation coming up. [ male announcer ] this is bob, a regular guy with an irregular heartbeat. the usual, bob? not today. [ male announcer ] bob has afib: atrial fibrillation not caused by a heart valve problem, a condition that puts him at greater risk for a stroke. [ gps ] turn left. i
they are checking for any connections between tamerlan tsarnaev and this unsolved triple murder. the connections between these two crimes may be coincidental. there is no reason at this point to say there is more. but as the d.a. looks into this further, watch this space. >>> simply stated, there is no doubt that saddam hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. there is no doubt that he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies, and against us. >> not...
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they are checking for any connections between tamerlan tsarnaev and this unsolved triple murder. the connections between these two crimes may be coincidental. there is no reason at this point to say there is more. but as the d.a. looks into this further, watch this space. we got a subaru. it's where she said her first word. (little girl) no! saw her first day of school. (little girl) bye bye! made a best friend forever. the back seat of my subaru is where she grew up. what? (announcer) designed...
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after his older brother, tamerlan, was killed in a shootout with police early this morning. police are going door-to-door in the boston suburb of watertown where tsarnaev was last seen. the area has seen intense police activity all day long. a metro
after his older brother, tamerlan, was killed in a shootout with police early this morning. police are going door-to-door in the boston suburb of watertown where tsarnaev was last seen. the area has seen intense police activity all day long. a metro
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what is the conference going on right now about tamerlan? >> i think what people in the congregation feel is that he was really reacting to the modern american islam that's projected inside of our congregation, so inside of that second incident, you know, inside of that second incident, you know, after he stood up, after our, you know, preacher compared martin luther king, you know, to the prophet muhammad, and he stood up, he called our preacher a hypocrite, so then the people of the congregation shouted him out to leave. so i think the conversation in our congregation is that, you know he just didn't fit, in terms of kind of the idea allege, the mainstream moderate ideology that our mosque projects. >> there have been reports that his family wants him to be buried in the united states and is trying to find a way to bury him, to have a proper burial service for him, and i don't know whether the body has been released yet. do you know whats latest is on that? >> yeah, there were some reports out there that we had rejected his burial, or the
what is the conference going on right now about tamerlan? >> i think what people in the congregation feel is that he was really reacting to the modern american islam that's projected inside of our congregation, so inside of that second incident, you know, inside of that second incident, you know, after he stood up, after our, you know, preacher compared martin luther king, you know, to the prophet muhammad, and he stood up, he called our preacher a hypocrite, so then the people of the...
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tamerlan's wife? we know we've seen her, she's gone back to the cambridge house briefly to apparently get some mail and other things. she is believed to be with her parents in rhode island. are they interviewed her to know how much she knew about his radicalization? >> they will. they very much want to. they want to talk to every member of the family. they want it talk to all his friends. they want to know not just the answer to that question, but fill in as many pieces of the puzzle as they can. what were they up to in the months leading up to the bombing, what did they do afterwards, did they talk about plans? were they in touch with other people? the quick answer to your question is we don't believe they are have. her lawyer says he's in touch with the federal authorities now trying to work out details of that. they are going to get to her. they will interview her. she, she can be subpoenaed if necessary. so that, that will be done. >> and there are conflicting reports of extensive reporting and a
tamerlan's wife? we know we've seen her, she's gone back to the cambridge house briefly to apparently get some mail and other things. she is believed to be with her parents in rhode island. are they interviewed her to know how much she knew about his radicalization? >> they will. they very much want to. they want to talk to every member of the family. they want it talk to all his friends. they want to know not just the answer to that question, but fill in as many pieces of the puzzle as...
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government more than once about tamerlan tsarnaev, it may be different agencies involved. there are questions we are hearing from republican members wanting to know more about what nbi may have known when the suspect who is now deceased came back from russia after a six-month trip. questions about, was there any way that more information might have been available. in talking to other senators, they point out that they get like 20,000 tips to the intelligence community that get rundown about these various potential suspects or people to watch for. senator feinstein also said that tamerlan tsarnaev was on a watch list but he fell off that list because if after a year, there was no reason to suspect the person, they drop off the list. so those are some of the details we are hearing in conversations. >> and kelly, that sound like the substantive inquiry. what about the temperature? would you say people on the hill or generally respectfully proceeding now? or is there a temperature raising and concerns about whether we knew everything we could have known in advance? >> well, th
government more than once about tamerlan tsarnaev, it may be different agencies involved. there are questions we are hearing from republican members wanting to know more about what nbi may have known when the suspect who is now deceased came back from russia after a six-month trip. questions about, was there any way that more information might have been available. in talking to other senators, they point out that they get like 20,000 tips to the intelligence community that get rundown about...
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the older man, tamerlan got out of the car. and with what authorities say appeared to be explosives strapped to his chest. he was shot by police. and then his brother, who was still in the car, simply pressed the accelerator to the floor and took off. and then at some point abandoned the car. there's some indication that he might have been wounded in that encounter with police. they can't be sure. because they don't know where he is. but they've seen some blood that indicates that maybe he was wounded. >> pete, i know we're going to have to let you go. but really quickly, they did carjack a mercedes suv at one point. and revealed themselves to be the two men behind the marathon bombing. do we know anything about the owner of that suv who was later released unharmed after spending half an hour with the two brothers? >> we do. we know who he is, we've decided not to name him since he's an innocent victim in all of this. but yes, he was just someone who happened to be driving around, unlucky to be in the place where they decided t
the older man, tamerlan got out of the car. and with what authorities say appeared to be explosives strapped to his chest. he was shot by police. and then his brother, who was still in the car, simply pressed the accelerator to the floor and took off. and then at some point abandoned the car. there's some indication that he might have been wounded in that encounter with police. they can't be sure. because they don't know where he is. but they've seen some blood that indicates that maybe he was...
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she converted to islam when she met tamerlan, and she is somewhat observe ant. she wears the head scarf normally but he said she was in a bit of a tough spot, because tamerlan wasn't working full-time, he said katie russell was basically working up to seven days a week, sometimes 70 hours a week as a home aide, so tamerlan would stay home and take care of their young toddler daughter while katie russell went out and worked for most of the week. anderson? >> interesting. chris lawrence, i appreciate the reporting. >>> now, toronto, canada where late details of a terrorist plot that authorities in canada say they have foiled. they say it involved an al qaeda supported attack against a passenger train traveling between canada and the united states. paul, this plot has got a lot of interesting elements. it was directed, supported allegedly by al qaeda in iran. have we seen that before? >> not seen that at all before, especially lately since basically al qaeda and iran have had a rift considering the situation in syria. it is very strange to see that here. iran for i
she converted to islam when she met tamerlan, and she is somewhat observe ant. she wears the head scarf normally but he said she was in a bit of a tough spot, because tamerlan wasn't working full-time, he said katie russell was basically working up to seven days a week, sometimes 70 hours a week as a home aide, so tamerlan would stay home and take care of their young toddler daughter while katie russell went out and worked for most of the week. anderson? >> interesting. chris lawrence, i...
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that resulted in the death of his older brother, 26-year-old tamerlan tsarnaev. dzhokar appears to be in the boat in the back of that house. now that boat is on fire. there is tremendous amount of police presence. that convergent intensified in just the last hour in the wake of a police press conference lifting the request for people to stay inside and just a little bit after that, a rush of police into the area and an explosion of gunfire. joining us on the phone is rebecca kraeger. he backyard looks into the yard where everything is happening. rebecca with, can you tell me what you're seeing? >> right now i'm seeing a lot of flashing lights from police cars. i'm hearing a lot of helicopters overhead, i think. right now, there's a house blocking where the house with the boat is. but i can see a lot of police officers roaming around. and it's scary. there's a lot going on. maybe a hundred yard from me. >> rebecca, i imagine you were sheltered all day. were you close enough to hear the fire fight that happened in watertown? >> yeah. i'm probably half a mile from a
that resulted in the death of his older brother, 26-year-old tamerlan tsarnaev. dzhokar appears to be in the boat in the back of that house. now that boat is on fire. there is tremendous amount of police presence. that convergent intensified in just the last hour in the wake of a police press conference lifting the request for people to stay inside and just a little bit after that, a rush of police into the area and an explosion of gunfire. joining us on the phone is rebecca kraeger. he...
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where tamerlan goes for six months. he flies to moscow. but then, according to his father, he visits chechnya and dagestan. now, who did he visit in chechnya? who did he visit in dagestan? does it have any relationship to these unspecified underground groups that the russians referred to in their original request to the fbi? third, you come back to the united states. by this point he clearly seems to be thoroughly radicalized. he sets up that youtube account filled with jihadjihadi videos. we have reports from radical tendencies even from people within his own mosque. who was he in contact with in the boston area? i think those are the biggest questions now facing investigators and people looking at how the fbi handled this case. >> michael isikoff, i got to leave it there. you're right. we got to figure out did the kgb not tell our guys or russian intelligence not tell our guys everything that they knew at the time? and will they tell us now? anyway, michael, thank you very much. >>> gaggle will be here next. running a little bit late. fi
where tamerlan goes for six months. he flies to moscow. but then, according to his father, he visits chechnya and dagestan. now, who did he visit in chechnya? who did he visit in dagestan? does it have any relationship to these unspecified underground groups that the russians referred to in their original request to the fbi? third, you come back to the united states. by this point he clearly seems to be thoroughly radicalized. he sets up that youtube account filled with jihadjihadi videos. we...
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tamerlan and dzhokhar both carried illegal guns. neither had proper permits nor petitions and dzhokhar tsarnaev was under age. within the last hour the white house explained why the surviving suspect will go through the criminal system. >> he will not be treated as an enemy combatant. we will prosecute this terrorist through our civilian system of justice under u.s. law. the united states citizens cannot be tried in military commissions and it is important to remember that since 9/11, we have used the federal court system to convict and incarcerate hundreds of terrorists. >> nbc news justice correspondent pete williams is live with us right now. i know you've been reviewing these charges. what's the latest on what you've uncovered? >> it is a fairly interesting sequence of things that the government cites here as evidence. first of all they say that there was a surveillance tape that shows what apparently is the second suspect, dzhokhar tsarnaev, the man in the hospital, placing the bomb at the second bombing. this is unrelated pict
tamerlan and dzhokhar both carried illegal guns. neither had proper permits nor petitions and dzhokhar tsarnaev was under age. within the last hour the white house explained why the surviving suspect will go through the criminal system. >> he will not be treated as an enemy combatant. we will prosecute this terrorist through our civilian system of justice under u.s. law. the united states citizens cannot be tried in military commissions and it is important to remember that since 9/11, we...
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so that when tamerlan, last year tamerlan tsarnaev went to fly to moscow, the u.s. government knew about it because it pinged in the data base. but u.s. officials looked that and said, well okay, he is flying. we check need him and there isn't anything there. i guess there's a couple of questions there. in a situation like this, where you get a request from a foreign government, should there be more -- looking into it, if there is subsequent travel. that cuts both ways. several members of congress have said, they get like 20,000 tips of these tips a year, individual agent, assigned to people get something like a hundred of them a week. and if you keep adding to that list, does that become an unmathageable workload. that's one question. but the second question is, what about some of these radical things that tamerlan tsarnaev was known to be putting on his website? some of these outspoken jihadist advocates overseas, should there be some way it keep more track when people post things to their websites, of noted radicals overseas. that's a tricky area. because its pro
so that when tamerlan, last year tamerlan tsarnaev went to fly to moscow, the u.s. government knew about it because it pinged in the data base. but u.s. officials looked that and said, well okay, he is flying. we check need him and there isn't anything there. i guess there's a couple of questions there. in a situation like this, where you get a request from a foreign government, should there be more -- looking into it, if there is subsequent travel. that cuts both ways. several members of...
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"the new york times" reports that after the tib questioned tamerlan tsarnaev in 2011, officials had quote no authority to watch him because they found no terrorism activity at the time. this scenario that an american could and would do this while flying under the radar raises serious questions regarding national security. the "washington post" writes the boston attacks might serve as a new model for terrorism in the 21st century. seeing how two kids with backpack bombs seem to have succeeded in putting a major u.s. city on lockdown, it may now dawn on al qaeda leaders that a series of small-scale attacks like this conversation the same impact as one spectacular mass casualty attack. through a combination of skill and luck, we've done well at preventing the next 9/11. preventing the next boston massacre might not be as easy. joining me today, former dnc communications director and msnbc host, karen finney, "new york times" op-ed columnist frank bruney, retired army sergeant wes moore and "mother jones" msnbc political analyst, david corn and msnbc justice correspondent, pete williams. let'
"the new york times" reports that after the tib questioned tamerlan tsarnaev in 2011, officials had quote no authority to watch him because they found no terrorism activity at the time. this scenario that an american could and would do this while flying under the radar raises serious questions regarding national security. the "washington post" writes the boston attacks might serve as a new model for terrorism in the 21st century. seeing how two kids with backpack bombs seem...
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tamerlan born in kyrgystan, comes in 2002. he becomes a u.s. citizen, 9/11/2012. he was a wrestler, enrolled at the university of massachusetts-dartmouth. so many friends talking so positively about him. tamerlan, his older brother, does that travel. he comes later than his younger brother. he was mayrried, had a 3-year-od daughter. had a domestic violence incident. he dropped out of community colle college. he was a competitive boxer. people speaking very positively about him. but, chairman mike rogers, now we have more information about some evidence of him sort of dropping out of society, as it were, information after he comes back from foreign travel, postings on his youtube account and other social media indicating that he had exposure to jihadist elements whether that's connect canned to chechnya and the struggles there or otherwise. what do you know this morning and what do you want to know? >> it's important to understand why, in fact, the fbi interviewed him in the first place. so they had information from a foreign intelligence service that they were con
tamerlan born in kyrgystan, comes in 2002. he becomes a u.s. citizen, 9/11/2012. he was a wrestler, enrolled at the university of massachusetts-dartmouth. so many friends talking so positively about him. tamerlan, his older brother, does that travel. he comes later than his younger brother. he was mayrried, had a 3-year-od daughter. had a domestic violence incident. he dropped out of community colle college. he was a competitive boxer. people speaking very positively about him. but, chairman...
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it quotes tamerlan tsarnaev as saying i slapped her. they thought the tension dissipated after parents and sisters moved out. >>> we are also thinking about the victims, of course. one week after the bombing 50 remain in the hospital, two in critical condition. at least a dozen have had amputations. >> one of them is a dance instructor who lost her foot and part of her lower leg. she was watching the marathon when they were hit by the second blast. anderson cooper has their story. >> i hate to ask you to relive what you have gone through. >> i relive it every day. >> you think about it every day? >> absolutely. >> how close were you to the second explosion? >> i was right in front of it, right in front of the business where it was. i felt the direct impact. it immediately blew off my left foot. >> how far away was the bomb? >> my guess it would have been about five feet. >> we are lucky to be alive. >> did you lose consciousness? >> i don't think we did. i remember everything so if we did it was for a matter of seconds. >> do you rememb
it quotes tamerlan tsarnaev as saying i slapped her. they thought the tension dissipated after parents and sisters moved out. >>> we are also thinking about the victims, of course. one week after the bombing 50 remain in the hospital, two in critical condition. at least a dozen have had amputations. >> one of them is a dance instructor who lost her foot and part of her lower leg. she was watching the marathon when they were hit by the second blast. anderson cooper has their...
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we know the older brother tamerlan tsarnaev is dead. we know two people in custody, not necessary related, that live in the apartment that these two brothers live in. willie, you have been covering things overnight. give us the tick talk through that convenience store robbery to where we are right now. >> as pete williams is pointing out for us this morning this came out because of the actions of these two alleged terrorists. they decided to rob a 7-eleven at 10:20 in cambridge. they went and murdered a police officer sitting in his vehicle at m.i.t. that led to a carjacking. they took a black mercedes suv. they held at gunpoint the driver of that car for 30 minutes before releasing the driver unharmed. at that point, there's a chase and authorities come into the town of watertown, as mike barnicle described it for us this morning. a bedroom community of 32,000 people and there was a shootout in the streets of watertown. suspect number one. the one we have come to known in the black hat. was on the ground. authorities found him with an
we know the older brother tamerlan tsarnaev is dead. we know two people in custody, not necessary related, that live in the apartment that these two brothers live in. willie, you have been covering things overnight. give us the tick talk through that convenience store robbery to where we are right now. >> as pete williams is pointing out for us this morning this came out because of the actions of these two alleged terrorists. they decided to rob a 7-eleven at 10:20 in cambridge. they went...
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these people -- dzhokhar and tamerlan were not isolated. they had a lot of friends and people their lives and the fbi wants to question the widow of the suspected bomber, catherine russell of tamerlan tsarnaev. they were married in 2010 and authorities search for answers and family and friends are crucial to the investigation. and according to her attorney, though, she didn't know anything about the bombings and was devastated to hear her husband maybe involved. is it more complicated than that, though? chris lawrence is in north kingston, rhode island, tonight. what do investigators want to hear from catherine russell? >> reporter: erin, federal authorities want to know what, if anything, catherine russell knows about what her husband was doing before the bombing, and what affiliations he may have had other than his younger brother. the attorney told me bottom line she is cooperating with federal authorities and that she didn't know anything about what was going on until she actually saw it on the news. he said she understands why federal
these people -- dzhokhar and tamerlan were not isolated. they had a lot of friends and people their lives and the fbi wants to question the widow of the suspected bomber, catherine russell of tamerlan tsarnaev. they were married in 2010 and authorities search for answers and family and friends are crucial to the investigation. and according to her attorney, though, she didn't know anything about the bombings and was devastated to hear her husband maybe involved. is it more complicated than...
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who is the wife of tamerlan tsarnaev? and later, how easy was it to make the bombs that killed three and injured dozens more? an "outfront" investigation on that and whether it's possible to stop another one. woman: everyone in the nicu -- all the nurses wanted to watch him when he was there 118 days. everything that you thought was important to you changes in light of having a child that needs you every moment. i wouldn't trade him for the world. who matters most to you says the most...
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tamerlan said, mommy, i love you. and dzhokhar's voice came from a distances, i love you, too, mommy. >> reporter: she watched the boys' father filmed here earlier in the week see them on the news for the first time. >> translator: and then for some reason he tells me, this is joe ar and tamerlan and points to the screen and says, here's tamerlan in the blue jacket and dzhokhar in the white jacket. and i say, anzor, these are the guys with the backpack, and these photos were shown. these can't be that. i don't know, these are my children. and then he grabs the tv screen and starts xraex iscreaming, it be, it can't be happening, i don't believe it. children are dead. i would have shouted myself. >> reporter: nick paton walsh, cnn. >> it's another catastrophe that's been overshadowed by the terrorist attacks hoer s here boston, an enormous explosion in texas at a plant that obliterated a small town. the crater was left at the scene of the blast, the explosion killed 14 people, 10 of them first responders, including 5 of
tamerlan said, mommy, i love you. and dzhokhar's voice came from a distances, i love you, too, mommy. >> reporter: she watched the boys' father filmed here earlier in the week see them on the news for the first time. >> translator: and then for some reason he tells me, this is joe ar and tamerlan and points to the screen and says, here's tamerlan in the blue jacket and dzhokhar in the white jacket. and i say, anzor, these are the guys with the backpack, and these photos were shown....
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tamerlan taught everything to himself. we were happy about it because he didn't start doing drugs or alcohol. now he doesn't speak to other women he is not related to. they're not important to him because it's a sin to even look them in the eye. she saw him for four of the six months he was here, and he went to chechnya twice. >> translator: yes, he went to chechnya for a couple of days. i don't know where his relative there's lived. they were from his father's side. i do know that village was bombed in the second war, though. >> reporter: as pictures of boston played out around the world, she reveals that the mother rang the boys to check if they were well. but later that week they rang her again, allegedly when they were on the run, just the day before tamerlan died. the day before, she said they spoke, and it was like always, mommy, everything is fine with us. mommy, we're totally fine. mommy, that's what they call her. >> translator: we miss your warmth and caress, they said. tamerlan said "mommy, i love you clothe. an
tamerlan taught everything to himself. we were happy about it because he didn't start doing drugs or alcohol. now he doesn't speak to other women he is not related to. they're not important to him because it's a sin to even look them in the eye. she saw him for four of the six months he was here, and he went to chechnya twice. >> translator: yes, he went to chechnya for a couple of days. i don't know where his relative there's lived. they were from his father's side. i do know that...
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tamerlan traveled to russia last year. stayed about six months. the big question right now, though is how did he spend his time there? an nbc news terrorist analyst, robin mcfadden served as the special agent in charge and deputy assistant director foreintelligence operations. good to have you both in the studio. you've been anne interrogator, we're been talking about this, the throat injury the suspect has, he's in serious condition. how do you interrogate someone who can't speak? you ask questions and they write on a pad? >> that's one possibility, but here we have just another challenge on top of a challenge under these circumstances. first and foremost, it's the medical clearance from the doctors working hand and glove with the personnel, the investigators on-scene and then once that medical clearance is given, and actually even before then, there could be a period where there's a personal connection, or a bond with -- i've been in situations before, serious injuries, but before there's a full medical clearance, could you actually be in the ro
tamerlan traveled to russia last year. stayed about six months. the big question right now, though is how did he spend his time there? an nbc news terrorist analyst, robin mcfadden served as the special agent in charge and deputy assistant director foreintelligence operations. good to have you both in the studio. you've been anne interrogator, we're been talking about this, the throat injury the suspect has, he's in serious condition. how do you interrogate someone who can't speak? you ask...
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interviews tamerlan and the family. comes up with nothing. goes back to the russians and says, you know, we got nothing here. what else do you have? the russians don't respond. the fbi a second time asks them for something. then in september of 2011 the russians make exactly the same request, but this time they go to the cia. perhaps thinking they'll get a different response. the cia sends that over to the fbi. the fbi says we've already looked into this. there isn't anything. but, again, they say they asked the russians what more do you have? give us more, we'll chase it down. again, they say, the russians don't respond. as a result of these two requests to the fbi and cia, his name did go into a terrorism database. the sort of master terrorism tip database. so that when he did fly to moscow last january, the government knew about that. but it didn't take any action either when he left or when he came back because the case was considered closed. so that's what they did. now, here's the policy question. many members of congress are saying, we
interviews tamerlan and the family. comes up with nothing. goes back to the russians and says, you know, we got nothing here. what else do you have? the russians don't respond. the fbi a second time asks them for something. then in september of 2011 the russians make exactly the same request, but this time they go to the cia. perhaps thinking they'll get a different response. the cia sends that over to the fbi. the fbi says we've already looked into this. there isn't anything. but, again, they...
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that is a little bit of a different story about what we knew about tamerlan tsarnaev's travels or not. was he on a watch list? wasn't he not? by her saying that, she's implying he was on a watch list. >> so, it would appear. i think it's fair to say that the, we don't know the answer to that because we're getting different answers from the intelligence community about whether he was ever put on a watch list. i guess there's two ways to look at this. the individual specifics about precisely how this was handled, but if you step back, there's a larger question here. that is when a foreign government gives us potentially derogatory information about someone, stop right there. should that create an entry for that person in the system? then keep going down the process. here, the fbi says they looked thoroughly at him, as much as they were allowed to do during this legal operation they're going in in this initial threat assessment. they find nothing. should that keep the listing, the watch listing active? or should it go away? these are and then if that person then flies to the country that
that is a little bit of a different story about what we knew about tamerlan tsarnaev's travels or not. was he on a watch list? wasn't he not? by her saying that, she's implying he was on a watch list. >> so, it would appear. i think it's fair to say that the, we don't know the answer to that because we're getting different answers from the intelligence community about whether he was ever put on a watch list. i guess there's two ways to look at this. the individual specifics about...
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tamerlan said, mommy, i love you. and dzhokhar's voice came in from a distance saying, mommy, i love you. she saw the boy's father to see them on the news for the first time. and then for some reason he tells me, patimas, this is dzhokhar and tamerlan, pointed to a screen, it is tamerlan from the blue jacket, dzhokhar from the white jacket. i say, these are guys with a backpack in these photos. it can't be them. he said, i don't know, patimas, these are my children. and then his wife grabs the tv screen and starts screaming, it can't be. it can't be happening. i don't believe it. the children are there. i would have cried out myself. nick payton walsh, cnn. >>> in fact, family and friends have been a key part of the investigation so far as the fbi tries to piece together every bit of information it can. >> but it's been hard to get a view of what the brothers are like because there are a lot of conflicting views and opinions. take a listen to the suspect's mother. >> impossible. impossible for them -- for both of them
tamerlan said, mommy, i love you. and dzhokhar's voice came in from a distance saying, mommy, i love you. she saw the boy's father to see them on the news for the first time. and then for some reason he tells me, patimas, this is dzhokhar and tamerlan, pointed to a screen, it is tamerlan from the blue jacket, dzhokhar from the white jacket. i say, these are guys with a backpack in these photos. it can't be them. he said, i don't know, patimas, these are my children. and then his wife grabs the...
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we also don't know really pea sizely where tamerlan was for that six months. how much of the time he spent with relatives, how much of the time he may have spent in the region, a region popular with recruiters. >> we don't. we have heard that he went to a mosque here in the capital of dagestan. this mosque has a questionable history. it's a place where they have done regular clean-up campaigns. they have arrested people in one sweep up. there were 100 to 200 people detained, according to a man who a is security adviser to the government, both to dagestan and to the kremlin. on the other hand, there are a lot of people who attend the mosque who are completely innocent. who feel that they are consistently harassed. but it's not clear to us and we've been trying to talk to people, people say they sort of remember seeing tamerlan there. but they haven't actually identified who he was talking to. nobody has been able to come forward with a picture of how he spent his time. certainly not in that mosque. his aunt who did see quite a bit of him last year when he was v
we also don't know really pea sizely where tamerlan was for that six months. how much of the time he spent with relatives, how much of the time he may have spent in the region, a region popular with recruiters. >> we don't. we have heard that he went to a mosque here in the capital of dagestan. this mosque has a questionable history. it's a place where they have done regular clean-up campaigns. they have arrested people in one sweep up. there were 100 to 200 people detained, according to...
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number number one, his brother was 26-year-olds, tamerlan. one was born in curd stan and the other in russia. they have been living here in this country for about a decade. in watertown, nbc news justice correspondent and atf agent james cavanaugh and analyst roger cressy. live in watertown, we were listening together as kerry sanders was moved further and further back. what are you seeing? >> he is a few blocks away from here, but we are not hearing anything that he is hearing. it's quiet in this part of watertown. the helicopter that had been circling for the past few hours is no longer here. we have seen tactical units leave and others come back in. we haven't seen anything like kerry has been seeing a few blocks away from where we are standing. we don't want to give away too much because the police asked that we don't give out tactical information, but we are going on hour ten of a lockdown. people are not outside. maybe all of four or five residents come around to the area. that's very unusual whenever there is a media staging area peopl
number number one, his brother was 26-year-olds, tamerlan. one was born in curd stan and the other in russia. they have been living here in this country for about a decade. in watertown, nbc news justice correspondent and atf agent james cavanaugh and analyst roger cressy. live in watertown, we were listening together as kerry sanders was moved further and further back. what are you seeing? >> he is a few blocks away from here, but we are not hearing anything that he is hearing. it's...
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the chase ended when authorities shot and killed 26-year-old tamerlan tsarnaev. nbc's pete williams reports he was run over by the car driven by his brother. and when police approached his body, they discovered an ied strapped to his chest. he was transported to the hospital where he was pronounced dead. let's bring in nbc national investigative correspondent, michael isikoff. let's talk about what we foe in the scene right now. the police have said they have new leads within the last few minutes that they are exploring and that they want everyone to stay inside. >> exactly. a pretty good sign that this situation is still very fluid, still very tense. and we don't know where it's going or how long the manhunt is going to be taking place. i should point out, andrea, that i am right behind what is the principal staging area for the police and the military here. all morning long we had convoys of military humvees coming in, buses of police, motorcycles, of state police, blackhawk helicopters have been flying in and over this area. landing just behind me on the other
the chase ended when authorities shot and killed 26-year-old tamerlan tsarnaev. nbc's pete williams reports he was run over by the car driven by his brother. and when police approached his body, they discovered an ied strapped to his chest. he was transported to the hospital where he was pronounced dead. let's bring in nbc national investigative correspondent, michael isikoff. let's talk about what we foe in the scene right now. the police have said they have new leads within the last few...
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and about the bureau's handling of the older brother tamerlan tsarnaev. let's go to chief political analyst gloria borger. talk about the pressure, the pressure the fbi is under to explain what the heck happened. >> announcer: lot of pressure. first of all, members of congress want to do their job and know what the fbi knew, when, they want to make sure information wasn't what we call in washington speak siloed, you know, post 9/11 the big issue was that agencies need to be sharing information. they want to make sure that, for example, the fbi, department of homeland security, intelligence were all sharing information. there is another really important question which just sort of came up today. if the fbi investigated this man and decided he was not really a threat, they contact the russians, they try to get more information, they don't get more information, what can they then do that doesn't violate federal guidelines to continue to pursue him? where do they have to cut it off? where does legal and illegal surveillance begin? there are federal guidelines
and about the bureau's handling of the older brother tamerlan tsarnaev. let's go to chief political analyst gloria borger. talk about the pressure, the pressure the fbi is under to explain what the heck happened. >> announcer: lot of pressure. first of all, members of congress want to do their job and know what the fbi knew, when, they want to make sure information wasn't what we call in washington speak siloed, you know, post 9/11 the big issue was that agencies need to be sharing...
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we found out that two brothers, tamerlan tsarnaev and his younger brother... ( laughter ) a little help. >> zo-car sa-my-ev. >> ja-har zar-nye-eff. >> joe-car sar-nev. >> joe-hay sar-nay-off. ( laughter ) >> stephen: i'm going to go with white hat guy. ( laughter ) these brackets killed a young policeman, carjacked an s.u.v., ending with a high-speed chase and a firefight in which tamerlan was mortally wounded, ending his life as all islamic terrorists dream-- at beth israel hospital. ( laughter ) ( applause ) meanwhile-- meanwhile, white hat guy fled the scene so authorities start a massive manhunt, ordering the entire city of boston to shelter-in-place. marking the first time an american city has been completely shut down if you don't count detroit. ( laughter ) it is-- it is unprecedented, folks. cnn's susan candiotti 7, i think, capturedly the feeling best. >> the streets are empty. it's ear. it's as though a bomb had dropped somewhere. ( laughter ) >> stephen: well said. that's cnn susan candiotti reporting live from no-(bleep)ylvania. ( laughter ) ( applause ) they finally caught
we found out that two brothers, tamerlan tsarnaev and his younger brother... ( laughter ) a little help. >> zo-car sa-my-ev. >> ja-har zar-nye-eff. >> joe-car sar-nev. >> joe-hay sar-nay-off. ( laughter ) >> stephen: i'm going to go with white hat guy. ( laughter ) these brackets killed a young policeman, carjacked an s.u.v., ending with a high-speed chase and a firefight in which tamerlan was mortally wounded, ending his life as all islamic terrorists dream-- at...
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tamerlan said, mommy, i love you. and gentleman car gentlem dzhokhar's voice came from a distance, i love you, too. >> she saw her son on tv and saw him on the nudz for the first time. >> translator: and then for some reason he tells me, this is dzhokhar and tamerlan and points at the screen and says here's tamerlan in the jacket and dzhokhar in the white jacket. and i say, azor, these are the guys with the backpacks. and these photos were shown. this can't be them. i don't know. these are my children. and then he dwri grabbed the tvn and started screaming. you it can't be happening. i don't believe it. children are dead. i would have shot myself. >> reporter: now, wolf, really you get the feeling of disbelief there. two interesting phone calls, the mother reaching out to her two sons in the wake of the boston bombing and then telling her they were far enough away from the bombing and then calling her the day before the shootout that killed their tamerlan, the older alleged boston bomber and saying, mother, we love yo
tamerlan said, mommy, i love you. and gentleman car gentlem dzhokhar's voice came from a distance, i love you, too. >> she saw her son on tv and saw him on the nudz for the first time. >> translator: and then for some reason he tells me, this is dzhokhar and tamerlan and points at the screen and says here's tamerlan in the jacket and dzhokhar in the white jacket. and i say, azor, these are the guys with the backpacks. and these photos were shown. this can't be them. i don't know....
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apparently that did not sit too well with tamerlan tsarnaev. this board member said he compiled some information from people who were in the mosque at the time, and here is what he said they told him about how they described that outburst. >> some people said that he said something to the effect you cannot, you know, compare or make a parallel between our prophet and a non-muslim. some people said that he referred to the person who was giving the sermon as a hypocrite. >> and he said after that, people kind of sat him down and explained to him this was a violation of the etiquette of the mosque, that you shouldn't be doing that. he said this really almost never happens during a sermon. during a sermon, he says you're never even supposed to speak. at the time, he got up and had this outburst, said this guy was a hypocrite who was giving the sermon, said don't compare martin luther king to a non-muslim, shouldn't do that, outraged by it, they calmed him down, explained to him that was wrong, he left, but he did come back for friday prayers after
apparently that did not sit too well with tamerlan tsarnaev. this board member said he compiled some information from people who were in the mosque at the time, and here is what he said they told him about how they described that outburst. >> some people said that he said something to the effect you cannot, you know, compare or make a parallel between our prophet and a non-muslim. some people said that he referred to the person who was giving the sermon as a hypocrite. >> and he...
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that's the last she would have heard from tamerlan. >> we appreciate that. there are other family ties to dig deeper on. katherine russell is the widow of the older brother. investigators want to find out what she may know. tell us what did you find out about this woman. >> just in the last five minutes, katherine russell returned home to her house after a meeting with her lawyer. she went for a meeting. we know he has been speaking with some of those investigators on her behalf. perhaps we are getting closer to the point she may address some of their concerns directly. as they look at the fact that s she shared that cramped apartment with tamerlan tsarn v tsarnaev. she is devastated by this. the investigators want to know exactly what she may have known as they try to piece together what happened and try to determine when and where he may have assembled some of those bombs. that's the reason they want to talk to her. her attorney still tells us she had no idea any of this was going on. anderson. >> i mean, obviously it is understandable why they would want
that's the last she would have heard from tamerlan. >> we appreciate that. there are other family ties to dig deeper on. katherine russell is the widow of the older brother. investigators want to find out what she may know. tell us what did you find out about this woman. >> just in the last five minutes, katherine russell returned home to her house after a meeting with her lawyer. she went for a meeting. we know he has been speaking with some of those investigators on her behalf....
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>> tamerlan is -- >> t is the aunt. >> smart boy. seemingly did not find himself yet in america, because it is not easy. my younger brother ruslan, he had high expectation of him. because he knew he was smart. he knew he could use his potential, but, you know, and then when he found out that he dropped out of university, that was ruslan was desperate because he always demands more of his children, of his nephews, especially tamerlan, his favorite, so as i said, he's smart guy. >> can you tell us about when they came to the united states, where they had been living before that? >> i brought them here. i was in the states, going through my paperwork. >> when was that? >> that was 2001. so then in 2002 my older brother came to the states, that's when i find out his paperwork, myself, for the refugee protection claim. >> your older brother -- >> older brother. no. then in april of 2002, boy's father, his wife and little dzhokhar, came to the states. that's when i filed a petition for their refugee status. because back home he worked as -
>> tamerlan is -- >> t is the aunt. >> smart boy. seemingly did not find himself yet in america, because it is not easy. my younger brother ruslan, he had high expectation of him. because he knew he was smart. he knew he could use his potential, but, you know, and then when he found out that he dropped out of university, that was ruslan was desperate because he always demands more of his children, of his nephews, especially tamerlan, his favorite, so as i said, he's smart guy....
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tamerlan went back to his house. and you would not have known they had just conducted one of the most significant terrorist attacks on u.s. soil. so the psychological profile here is something that's also going to get a tremendous amount of attention. >> we have from pete williams the breaking news that he is, the suspect they currently have is cooperating, saying they acted alone, they did not have any foreign assistance, they didn't seek any foreign guidance, got instructions for bomb making on the internet. do the facts as you know them now synch with that? >> yeah, from what we know i think that is all part and parcel of the story, and i think also we would have heard pre-miranda whether or not during the public safety exception if he had provided any information about imminent threat, additional plans, additional co-conspirators. because we haven't heard from any government sources on it, we should conclude there was nothing else in terms of imminent threat. the next step is to get all of the statements from tsa
tamerlan went back to his house. and you would not have known they had just conducted one of the most significant terrorist attacks on u.s. soil. so the psychological profile here is something that's also going to get a tremendous amount of attention. >> we have from pete williams the breaking news that he is, the suspect they currently have is cooperating, saying they acted alone, they did not have any foreign assistance, they didn't seek any foreign guidance, got instructions for bomb...
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tamerlan tsarnaev, identified as suspect number one. tsarnaev later dies at the hospital, strapped to his body, bombs. >> this was a trauma arrest, multiple injuries, probably we believe a combination of blasts, potentially gunshot wounds. >> how many gunshot wounds. >> unable to count. >> i'm sorry, i didn't hear the rest of that. >> probably a blast injury also. >> blast meaning one? >> explosive device, possibly shrapnel, thermal injuries. >> describe where it was? >> it was pretty much throughout the trunk, multiple wounds. >> would it be consistent with perhaps a bomb strapped -- >> unclear. i think the medical examiner will be able to conclusively say that. >> reporter: police cessa say tsarnaev's brother manages to escape, running over his body's body, scattering a line of police to get away. the younger tsarnaev is armed and dangerous and may have explosives strapped to his body two. police evacuate watertown and surrounding neighborhoods warning them in robocalls. >> hello. this is detective coners with the watertown police dep
tamerlan tsarnaev, identified as suspect number one. tsarnaev later dies at the hospital, strapped to his body, bombs. >> this was a trauma arrest, multiple injuries, probably we believe a combination of blasts, potentially gunshot wounds. >> how many gunshot wounds. >> unable to count. >> i'm sorry, i didn't hear the rest of that. >> probably a blast injury also. >> blast meaning one? >> explosive device, possibly shrapnel, thermal injuries. >>...
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tamerlan from dagestan where his father and mother still live. in an interview with "the wall street journal" their mother said tamerlan had given your boxing and drinking and smoking as he turned to a religious life and told the paper he phoned her the night he died saying, quote, the police, they have started shooting at us. they are chasing us. telling her he loved her before the phone went silent. and his uncle who lives in maryland says he believes the older brother became radicalized in cambridge and not overseas and eventually drew in his younger brother. a lot of questions how to handle the remaining suspect. >> david wrote, you wrote about the culprits. >> yeah, i spent friday looking at a lot of the youtube web sites and so on that had been visited by tamerlan and they were -- they were all jihadists. no question he was spending a lot of time looking at and listening to really highly radical islamist preachers, video that al qaeda has put out and not so private interest. he was talking about this with a circle of friends both at his mos
tamerlan from dagestan where his father and mother still live. in an interview with "the wall street journal" their mother said tamerlan had given your boxing and drinking and smoking as he turned to a religious life and told the paper he phoned her the night he died saying, quote, the police, they have started shooting at us. they are chasing us. telling her he loved her before the phone went silent. and his uncle who lives in maryland says he believes the older brother became...
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in russia and the father says that the fbi came to their cambridge house two years ago to interview tamerlan tsarnaev, the older brother. >> before he went to russia? >> before he went to russia. so they have some record of him, some reason why they went and interviewed him. >> that is something. after he knew he was a subject of interest, he went over and took that trip. >> right. >> let's get back to whdh. >> they are just trying to secure the scene so that way they keep themselves safe and of course the people in and around the immediate area safe as well should this person possess any dangerous, lethal types of weapons. >> all right. thank you. let's go back to steve cooper with new information. >> i was just speaking with another source who is close to the scene. i'm now being told that there's no movement in the boat. i'm also hearing that he may be bleeding out and not -- and it's not safe to approach and again the reason why is concern of possible explosive devices that he may have on him or with him. so -- >> let's get the image on screen right now. this is the house with the boat b
in russia and the father says that the fbi came to their cambridge house two years ago to interview tamerlan tsarnaev, the older brother. >> before he went to russia? >> before he went to russia. so they have some record of him, some reason why they went and interviewed him. >> that is something. after he knew he was a subject of interest, he went over and took that trip. >> right. >> let's get back to whdh. >> they are just trying to secure the scene so that...
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one brother in particular, tamerlan, became increasingly radicalized over the last several years. we know now that the russian government expressed concern about him back in 2011. they warned the fbi he was a follower of radical islam. the fbi's investigation never turned up anything significant. tsarnaev traveled to the troubled region of dagestan for six months. it's where his parents live. it's a hub of jihadist recruitment generally. "the new york times" wrote yesterday -- actually, today. back home in the u.s., tsarnaev became more radicalized. "the boston globe" reports he disrupted conversations at his local cambridge mosque with outbursts of radical theology and created a youtube page. how did this lead up to the boston marathon a week ago? richard engel is nbc news' chief foreign correspondent. david is editor of the "new yorker" magazine. i want to start with richard, then to david. richard, why did the russians let him in if he was a problem for them a year earlier? >> it's common where you have governments watching people to give them some slack, to let them travel, to
one brother in particular, tamerlan, became increasingly radicalized over the last several years. we know now that the russian government expressed concern about him back in 2011. they warned the fbi he was a follower of radical islam. the fbi's investigation never turned up anything significant. tsarnaev traveled to the troubled region of dagestan for six months. it's where his parents live. it's a hub of jihadist recruitment generally. "the new york times" wrote yesterday --...